At
ALIS CALA, experts on stage discuss what is “discussable” in negotiations
and what owners want with brand affiliation.
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CORAL GABLES, Florida — In the
CALA region, a minority of hotels are branded (a bookend to what is happening
in the U.S.), which can make negotiating with owners for a soft or hard brand
more challenging.
Bill Clegg, regional director of
franchise development at BWH Hotels, said those challenges can create a
different dynamic of what is “discussible.”
“There’s a couple of things that
are discussable,” he said. “For soft brands and traditional brands, there’s an
entry fee to commit to the brand, and then there’s going to be ongoing fees… Royalty, marketing, technology, in our case, our soft brands tend to have
much lower fees than our traditional brands and our core brands. So, you have those fees that are negotiable, that are discussable oftentimes, as an
incentive. You can take a look at ramp-up fees to get somebody in and soften
the early years.”
Then, it comes down to pitching
the best fit for a potential owner, even if the ultimate decision is not to
affiliate.
“We love to model for a
prospect, but what will ultimately cost them to go into a brand or not”? Clegg
said. “We do an analysis of their distribution, their
business mix, the benefits to them of a loyalty program, those costs and everything
else and come back and put it down the paper. When this is a good idea for me,
when this is not, and there are times when it’s not.”
Clegg was part of “The power of
brand identity — affiliation vs. independence” panel at ALIS CALA by Northstar
event last week at the Loews Coral Gables Hotel in Florida. The panel consisted
of Clegg; Carolina Esconlan, senior director of owner relations, CALA for
Hilton; Jason Gold, senior vice president of business development for Irving,
Texas-based Highgate; and Maria Carolina Pinheiro, vice president of
development, Latin America & Caribbean for Wyndham Hotels & Resorts.
The panel was moderated by John Fareed, global chair of New York City-based
Horwath HTL.
What CALA owners are
looking for
When asked what independent
hotel owners are looking for, Pinheiro said her experience says it comes down
to three things.
“What do [they] want? They want
the loyalty program. Normally they say, ‘I already have 20 hotels. I have 30
hotels. What I need now is a loyalty program. I’m not going to create that.’ So, I need to join you because you have a very strong loyalty program,” Pinheiro said.
“Number two, they want to be discounted OTA [access] because, with the large
brands, we have a special commissions… Third, they want the training. They want
to have the support of a brand that can help with training the people.”
Pinheiro said that also involves
talking about what they don’t want.
“[They say] I’m not going to
change my culture. I’m not going to change the check-in process... This is what
normally they search for,” she said.
Escolan said negotiations and
agreements have radically changed as well. The days of 40- to 50-year
agreements are mostly gone in the region. Some are 10 years, but sometimes they
don’t even last that long.
“We’re seeing now that we’re
competing sometimes with agreements that have 10 years, but there are outs in
year three,” she said. “So, we are competing against that already. It depends on
the needs of the owner, brand, and site.
“Usually, for a franchise
agreement, we’re going to push for 20 years and for a management agreement,
like 10 years, but the terms and the exit clauses [are important]. Years ago…
there was no way out. Now, people are getting [out clauses and exit clauses].”
Gold said using third-party
operators in the region can benefit owners because “you get the best of both
worlds.”
“You get access to all the
brand-related resources, systems, personnel… But you’re also getting a broader
perspective because we might already be operating in a given market, and we
might be working with any of four or five or six different chains and affiliations,”
he said. “So, you’re getting the information from a broader ecosystem that you
can leverage from an operator standpoint.
“We obviously know you have to
play in the brand box, but I think working with a third-party operator, you can
poke a little bit of holes in that box sometimes and have more ways to ask for
forgiveness rather than permission on certain things. We’re not afraid to take
some of those risks.”